Awkward .308

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Awkward .308

Is it me or does the .308 look like a shotgun?
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Something more like this?
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Perhaps I'm just too picky.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=FP06h7Ay9RFqWM&tbnid=hR2TDg09tsCs7M:&ved=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lowpriceguns.com%2Fproduct.php_264443&ei=Vzm-Ud7vIPO00QG29oHQCw&bvm=bv.47883778,d.dmQ&psig=AFQjCNEMsgKftD7rdFPDB6PTCKLuosVBig&ust=1371507394625917

Its a pump action rifle.

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Official Trained Dogman

I didn't know it was pump action. But that doesn't change that it still looks like a shot gun. I'm sure most people would agree with me.

But it still is a real rifle I dont agree with changing it simply to fit a stereotype (plus the new actual shotgun coming up should help people figure out the difference)

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Official Trained Dogman

We'll just have to agree to disagree. They look very similar to me. Granted they are easy to tell apart side by side. But I feel like a new comer to the game might be confused.
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Thats the point soon enough people who have ranged will be able to tell what those bullets are (and possibly guns) its like the meds currently you cant really tell what they are unless you have medic or remember the bottle type/pill type. Also currently hovering over the gun does say rifle.

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Official Trained Dogman

Unless you make all the guns/ammo look the same, every player will know what each type of gun/ammo is just by looking at it. What is the point of adding that perk to Ranged if you (the player) can tell them apart? Some things are a given... its a post apocalyptic world set in the near future (IE: the nano-machines, night vision, modern weapons) and in this world even a person not adept at shooting (a character with the Ranged skill) will know the differences between a 12g shotgun shell and a .308 round.

I've been a DM for GURPS for a very long time. This game reflects A LOT of the GURPS system. The advantages and disadvantages are the most similar. There are defaults to many of the skills in GURPS, meaning even a person without the skill will still know a bit about it. Example: A person without an axe skill can still wield an axe but at a lesser chance to hit. Like a person without the Ranged skill will still know the extreme differences between calibers.

Now, if it were, lets say the difference between a 5.56 and a .223 it would be very likely that a character/person without the Ranged skill would be able to tell the slight difference (the difference being the casing and primer).

If we go on. I can read, the char in the game can read, we can tell by the recipes he gathers. It says on the casing of ammo and normally on the gun somewhere what caliber it is.

Sorry if I come off like an a**hole I'm just justifying my point that being able to see the caliber of the weapon/ammo should stay the same. Unless new advantages and disadvantages are added to change the before mentioned reasons.

Oh no I ment the bullets each gun uses not just "oh look bullets i wonder what guns its for". (Every gun has 2 bullet types right now they may be expanded later) Also keep in mind im just relaying the ideas of the creator as well. I personally dont think we should change the gun its not really a big issue. Sorry for the misunderstanding

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Official Trained Dogman

Either way this game is very fun and addicting. I can't wait for this to go "live".
I see so much potential to this game. With possibly 100s of advantages/disadvantages. More char builds, possibly stats. I haven't gone through all the threads or news but I hope that these things will be implemented. Different maps, different game modes, different models for you char etc.

Same I have been waiting so long to get pistols (I cant wait to pull it out on some unsuspecting thug :D)

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Official Trained Dogman

I said this exact same thing a while back and got shouted down by a guy who complained I didn't know enough about firearms to recognize that specific real-world weapon!

But you're right, OP. It does look like a shotgun, even if just at a glance. If there was a dozen different rifles in the game, sure, but with only one hunting rifle, it should be instantly recognizable, IMO.

With the new added shotgun, side-by-side you can tell the difference. But I'd far prefer a graphic like the OP's example, that screams "hunting rifle!" at a mere glance.

Sure, there are pump-action rifles, just like there are plenty of non-pump shotguns. But when the average gamer thinks of the words "hunting rifle" and "shotgun", I'd bet they think of a bolt-action rifle and a pump-action (or *maybe* a sawn-off double barrel) shotgun.

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